İkinci elde otomatik araç tehlikesi (2. sayfa)

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Orijinalden alıntı: SkyTraveler

Bakın bu konu artık sıkmaya başladı.Çok net söyliyim DSG sorunludan çok nazlı bir şanzımandır ve ne kadar nazını çekmezsen yada huyuna gitmezsen o kadar erken sıkıntı çıkarır ama huyuna gidip nazını çekersen ve bak kesinlikle çok önemli BAKIMLARINI ADAM GİBİ YAPTIRIRSAN sıkıntısız binersin.Ama ben sürekli sıkışık trafikte kullanıcam otomatik araba aldım bide naz mı çekicem uğraşamam yarı otomatik şanzımanın huyundan suyundan anlamam dersen girme neden çünkü sıkıntı çıkartma ihtimalini yükseltme olay bu kadar basit.EDC tip olarak DSG ile aynı prensiple çalışır ama daha az nazlı ve daha az sorunsuz olması için kullanışlılığı kısılmış gibidir adeta tercih senin dediklerimi dikkate al ve tercihini yap.Tabi bunlar naçizane tavsiyemdir.

İkinci el mevzusunda da evet Türkiye şartlarında kabul ediyorum risklidir aldığınız kişinin nasıl kullanmış olduğu önemlidir.

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Orijinalden alıntı: m_kucukaksoy

benim arkadaşda jetta otomatik var gecen arabasına bindim araç durduğu yerde viteste titreme yapıyor alırken şanzımana baktırdın mı dedim abi benden önceki sahibi değiştirmiş dedi bende dikkatli kullan şakaya gelmez dedim titreme neden dedi cevap veremedim edc şanzımanda alırken ölcüm yaparak alabiliyorsunuz ölcümde sorun çıkmazsa alınabilir amaiçlerinde kafam rahat oldun derseniz 308

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Firstly thank you for everyone's involvement in these threads, they are a great source of real world information.

So I decided, after reading about DSG problems, to buy a 2014 90TSI Golf hatchback with 52000 KM. (yeah yeah I know).

Everything was running fine and like most people in here with DSG issues, I started noticing heavy shuddering when reversing and low gear 4 weeks after buying the vehicle. I took the car to the dealership and thank you VW, everything was under good will (Car is less than 5 years of age). They had the car for 3 weeks, as they firstly thought it was just the software (software was old), then they realised it was the clutch pack and replaced that. After further inspection, they also replaced the flywheel under good will. They said the mechatronics were fine and the software update worked well.

So I took the car back yesterday and my first thoughts were WOW! Throttle response was much better and the car had more response overall (it was so much fun to drive). I tried everything...driving slow..fast...put it in reverse etc..everything seemed perfect. I did notice that when the car was at a stand still (I had my brake on), I would hear very slight shuddering at very low gears. I have found, through research, that the brake pedal is sensitive to pressure. If you press hard, the clutch disengages, however if you are light on the brake, the DSG is still in gear. I found that if I applied light pressure, the revs of the engine were at 1000 and there was zero shuddering. If I pressed harder, the revs dropped to 800 or so and there was sometimes very very slight shuddering. I thought this was a bit odd. Also another thing, when I turn on the engine, I hear a slight knock. This happens with the stop start at the lights. Knock. This never happened before.

So the true test was this morning. I jumped in and put it in reverse..and the car started slightly shuddering. When put in 1st gear, everything worked fine. I took it around the block and everything was fine. Gears were working well, no lag, no slipping noises, no real shuddering when at a stop and slight pressure on the brake. I then tried reverse a few times and the shuddering was still there, but the effects were less. I found that after 5 mins of driving, if i placed the car in reverse there was no shuddering at all, it worked perfectly like there was never a problem. What the!!!!

So my question is, should I take it back to the dealership or see how the car rides over the coming week?

Is this normal behavior for a new clutch pack and flywheel?

Does a new clutch pack and flywheel need to used more for it to 'be broken in a little"?

I really do like my golf, its a brilliant car, I just want things to be running well!

Thanks team :):)

MIchael.K.

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An update for all...

After 200 KM and 4 days of driving (with shuddering getting worse), I sent it back to the dealership.
They waited for a cold start (started the car in the morning) and took it for a drive (and obviously the shuddering problem was evident for them).

So I got the call this morning and they are now replacing the mechatronics. But here is the interesting part to take note of:

"The mechatronics unit itself never returned an error code under normal test/evaluation conditions. Because of this, other areas are looked at ie: clutch pack, flywheel etc. Because my vehicle had these replaced, Audi Techs in Sydney ran more in depth mechatronics testing and found errors."

The service manager said he had not seen this example before, however he said that if this is occurring rarely in some vehicles with DSGs, the customer will go through exactly what I have ie: replacing everything but the mechatronics to find a solution.

So what is the learn here? If the mechatronics tests come back as clear in a shuddering or DSG issue, push the service manager to get the master tech or tech to retook with a more in depth analysis tool.

Thanks all :)

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Orijinalden alıntı: tasshelhoff

Edc de dsg nin laciverti.

Ikisinden de uzak durun derim.

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